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Congressman Luis Gutierrez

Representing the 4th District of Illinois

In Mueller vs. Trump Encounter, Who Would The Odds-Makers Back?

September 6, 2018
Press Release
On Mueller: “He lets his indictments do the talking.”

Washington, DC – A day after he called for the President’s resignation in a floor speech, Rep. Luis V. Gutiérrez (D-IL) was back on the floor this morning to compare the main protagonists in the legal drama unfolding between President Trump and Special Counsel Robert Mueller.  The Illinois Congressman asked “So, in this battle of he-said/he-said, who would the odds makers pick?  If you were a betting man or woman, a Vegas odds maker, or just an arm chair quarterback, who would you go with?” 

With a picture of Mueller and Trump side by side, Rep. Gutiérrez went over their records.  He noted that while the President has been talking and tweeting incessantly offering his side of the story, Former FBI Director Mueller “lets his indictments do the talking.”

The long serving, former FBI Director volunteered for the Marines at the height of the Vietnam War and served with distinction because he had a sense of “obligation to put one’s self behind one’s country as a matter of honor.”  President Trump, on the other hand, got out of the draft claiming he had bone spurs, “despite ample evidence that that was a lie, a complete fiction, made up – to serve his own personal interests above the interests of his country in a time of war.”

In Rep. Gutiérrez’s estimation, Mueller is a “law enforcement veteran” with ample court room experience – and the President’s court room experience is limited to giving depositions in numerous criminal and civil disputes or serving as a defendant.  Comparing their academic achievements and career achievements – and their track-records on marriage fidelity – the Congressman made a strong case that Former FBI Director Mueller was the right horse to bet on in this encounter.

He concluded by saying to his House Republican colleagues who have played an active role in shielding the President from prosecution and preventing evidence from coming to light:

There are a lot of people in this body who are staking their careers on the President and his influence over the voters in their states and districts. 

OK, you are betting on the guy who is up tweeting at 3 o’clock in the morning.

I look at the main protagonists in this legal drama and will put my money on the law enforcement veteran who at 3 o’clock most mornings is probably up working on who he is going to indict next.

A video of the Congressman’s floor speech, delivered shortly after 10 am ET is here: https://youtu.be/gTbCvBXiUVs

Rep. Luis V. Gutiérrez is the dean of the Illinois delegation and a thirteen-term Member of Congress from Chicago.  He is a Member of the Judiciary Committee and the Chair of the Immigration Task Force of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

Floor Remarks

September 6, 2018

Mr. Speaker, I have been thinking about all of the criminal investigations pointing directly at the President and his associates and the fact that for many Americans, this has become a he-said/he-said debate.

On the one hand, you have the President saying that this is all a witch hunt.  Yes, I fired Comey in order to derail the investigation; Yes, I knew about and helped conceal the Russia meeting; and Yes, I knew about the payments to keep people quiet…

Then there is Robert Mueller, the former FBI Director who really hasn’t said a word this whole time, but his efficient, productive, and successful investigation keeps rolling right along. 

He lets his indictments do the talking.

So in this battle of he-said/he-said, who would the odds makers pick?  If you were a betting man or woman, a Vegas odds maker, or just an arm chair quarterback, who would you go with? 

On the one hand we have a conservative Republican who was the second longest-serving FBI Director, behind only G. Edgar Hoover.

On the other hand, we have the host of a reality TV show with no political or government or military or law-enforcement experience.

Hmmm, let’s continue…

On the one hand, we have a Vietnam War veteran with a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star.  Director Mueller joined the Marines as a volunteer at the height of the Vietnam War after his high school teammate was killed in action.  Mueller enlisted to honor his friend and out of a sense of duty, honor, and obligation to put one’s self behind one’s country as a matter of honor. 

On the other hand we have the President who avoided military service by claiming he had bone spurs in his foot, despite ample evidence that that was a lie, a complete fiction, made up – to serve his own personal interests above the interests of his country in a time of war.

According to what I have read, Director Mueller was a good student at Princeton and after earning his Bachelor’s and Master’s, and after serving in Vietnam, he studied law at the University of Virginia, where he served on the Law Review, a prestigious accomplishment at any law school, let alone one of the best.

The President went to business school and inherited a million or more dollars from his father to get his real estate business off the ground.

Director Mueller is a courtroom expert and a veteran law enforcement leader.  He was a private litigator, a prosecutor in the U.S. Attorney’s office and started serving at the Justice Department under Attorney General Dick Thornburgh, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush’s Attorney General. 

To be sure, the President has a great deal of courtroom experience, too, but mostly related to depositions in civil lawsuits and criminal cases, or when he sues people or threatens to sue people.

On a more personal note, Director Mueller’s service as FBI Director, you may remember, was delayed at one point because he was fighting prostate cancer, which he beat.  He is a man of integrity who married his high school sweetheart in 1966 and to the best of everyone’s knowledge, it is the only marriage for either one of them. 

The President, well…I am running out of time so I will not discuss his list of marriages and affairs, which have all been quite public.

Finally, while the President characterizes the Mueller investigation as the most expensive witch hunt in history, I bet the odds makers would give a lot of weight to the following facts:

The President’s campaign chairman has been convicted, his National Security Advisor resigned and pleaded guilty, his personal attorney and long-time fixer pleaded guilty on multiple counts, and people from inside the Trump organization and inside the campaign and White House are cooperating with prosecutors, despite the President’s efforts, with the full cooperation of Republicans in Congress, to prevent the truth from coming out.

There are a lot of people in this body who are staking their careers on the President and his influence over the voters in their states and districts. 

OK, you are betting on the guy who is up tweeting at 3 o’clock in the morning.

I look at the main protagonists in this legal drama and will put my money on the law enforcement veteran who at 3 o’clock most mornings is probably up working on who he is going to indict next.

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